History/Info needed on Smith/Musgrave Family

[kafercup]

I am the grandson of John Smith Jr. who was born on Feb. 13 1927 to John Smith Sr. (originally from Yorkshire, England) and Marion Musgrave (originally from Canyon City, Colorado). I am interested in visiting the town to do some family history research, but would love to find out as much as possible before making the trip out from California.

Apparently My Great-Grandparents owned some type of general store/saloon in Aguilar and it may have had some sort of boarding house attached. My Grandfather had a brother named Earl and sisters Marion and Maudie.

My Great-Grandmothers parents were Joshua Musgrave (originally from Hartford City, W. Virginia) and Maudeline Archibald (originally from McKeys Port, Pennsylvania).

Hopefully some of these details will spark some memories or relate to some local information or history. I am very interested in finding the location of the business/residence that they occupied when my Grandfather was young and any other related information, photographs, etc.

I have a photo of my Great Grandfathers gravesite (he passed away in 1942, but i am unsure of the month), which I would also like to visit if it is still there. I tried to upload it to the forum, but it wouldn't work. The location of the graveyard is unknown to me at this time, but the gravesite behind belongs to one Anton Roman (1893-1944) if that may help in locating the site.
Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer.

Derek

[PAMM]

Can't help you much on your family history but I found the following on burials:
Joshua Musgrave, 19 March 1916-Died at Aguilar CO. He was 63. Had been a resident of Aguilar for 27 years. Survived by 5 grown children. Buried March 22, 1916 at the K. P. Cemetery.
(Chronicle News 3/21/1916)
Source: Aguilar CO and the upper Apishapa Valley, Obituaries and Death Notices by Ted Rousses, page 83.
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Another: Musgrove, (no name) born bef 2/7/1902 Five year old child of Mr. & Mrs. George Musgrove. The body taken to Kansas for burial to the grandparents who had been visiting Aguilar. (Trinidad Monitor 2/7/1902) page 205 same source.

Good Luck,
Pat

[Dodie]

Knights of Pythias Cemetery, Aguilar, Las Animas County, Colorado http://www.pythias.org/index.htm

MUSGRAUE Joshua 1863 1916 B
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb...es/pythias.txt

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/co...es/aguilar.htm

Apishapa Valley: http://www.aguilarhistory.com/

[PAMM]

1910 census of Las Animas County Colorado:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Joshua Musgrave
Name: Joshua Musgrave
Age in 1910: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's Name: Maud
Home in 1910: Precinct 9, Las Animas, Colorado
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joshua Musgrave 47
Maud Musgrave 43
Roy Musgrave 20
Viola Musgrave 17
Edith Musgrave 14
Earl Musgrave 9
Harry Lands 40 Lodger, born in Ohio

Just in case you didn't have this:

Pat

[kafercup]

Wow! Thank you for the help and quick responses! This is great information as I had no idea where my Joshua was buried.

Anyone else have any interesting bits?

I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate this help.

[Janet]

If it may help you:
The marriage of the Musgrave's took place on Christmas Eve,1883 in Grundy County,IL; they are indexed as "Joshua Musgreve and Maudlen Archibald".

In the 1870 Grundy Co.,IL census,Joshua's family is:
Musgrave,Joshua-30;born England; coal miner
wife-Margaret-27;born England
son-Joshua-7;born VA
son-Anthony-5;born IL
son-Robert-1;born IL

Margaret Musgrave died between 1872 and 1878; on Mar.9,1878,in LaSalle Couny,IL Joshua Sr. married the widowed Emily Mason.

In 1880 Ogallah,Trego,KS they are:
Musgrave,Joshua-42;born ENG;farmer
wife-Emily-33;born OH
son-Joshua-17;born VA
son-Anthony-15;born IL
son-Robert-11;born IL
son-George-9;born IL
son-Johnny-8;born IL
son-Freddie-2m; born KS
stepdaughter,Mason,Iva-10;born IL
stepson-Mason,Chester-8;born IL

The 1900 Ogallah census gives birth date for Joshua of Oct.1838 and Nov.1845 for Emily. She has had 6 children,and 5 are living;at home are Fred born March 1880 and Walter born Feb.1885.

MANY Musgrave's buried in Ogallah,KS-including Joshua Sr.and wife:
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/treg...m-ogallah.html

1900 census,Aguilar,CO
Musgrave,Joshua-born May 1863;37;married 17yrs;born VA,parents born ENG;saloon keeper
wife-Maude-Feb.1868;32; 6 children born, 5 living;born PA,parents born Scotland
daughter-Maggie-born Apr.1888;12;born KS
son-Roy-born Oct.1889;10;born CO
daughter-Marion-born July 1891;8;born CO
daughter-Viola-born Aug 1893;6;born CO
daughter-Edith-born Feb 1896;4;born CO

And of course in 1930,John and Marion Smith live in Aguilar-with 3 year old twins John and Marion-on Main Street and he runs a hardware store.

There is an obit available for "Maude Mae Musgrave",printed in the Pueblo Chieftain on July 8,1963.
If this person is one of "yours" you can order a copy from the Pueblo Library for $3;
Pueblo City County Library District
100 E.Abriendo Ave.
Pueblo,CO 81004-4290

[kafercup]

Thank you once again! This is great information. I wasn't aware of the marriage information for my great grandparents, and it appears that I now have some information relating to my great-great grandparents also.

Thank you SO much!

[kafercup]

quote:And of course in 1930,John and Marion Smith live in Aguilar-with 3 year old twins John and Marion-on Main Street and he runs a hardware store.

Where was this information located? I am extremely interested in finding out where the hardware store was located and whether the building is still standing or being used so that I can visit when I come down. Also I want to find out the address of their former residence, which may be that same as the business.

[Janet]

The 1930 information for John and Marion is from the census image. It gives their address as #92 Main Street, but whether that is a real house number or number assigned by the enumerator I can't say.

You might want to read up on how to get copies of marriage records from IL--depending on county and time frame, IL certificates can have wonderful information on them--
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/de.../marriage.html

[Dodie]

The 1930 census shows that John and Marion Smith lived on Main Street. It also shows that John was 33 yrs. old and Marion was 23 yrs. old at first marriage. Year of Immigration for John Smith 1896; Naturalization - NA. Estimated year of birth for John abt.1882 and Marion abt. 1892.